IE vs xhtml2 and html5

I stumble upon this interesting article about xhtml2, html5 aka whatwg. This also reminded me of an article I read about the other day about html5 forms. Sadly and as usual microsoft is not involve in neither one, in fact according to the first article they are making yet-another-group inside w3c…

When are developers going to stop saying yes to them? take for example xhtml they don’t even support version one and it seems xhtml2 is dead because the default browser just doesn’t care to add a xml parser.

why can’t we go to “you need a modern browser to see this webpage” and add a little explanation as to why using a browser from 2000 is bad?

7 comments ↓

#1 nav1 on 04.15.07 at 11:01 pm

Cause it’s easier said than done. Though I agree on how good and easy it would be a world were all browsers supported standards, in the real world everything is bound to sales. If you restrict who gets to view your site, your revenues will go down. If the group you’re restricting is about 80% (off the top of m head, I don’t have actual numbers) of the marketshare, the IE users, you’re just making a very stupid move.

So yes, the reality is sad, but that’s what happens when a single company has the vast majority of a widely used medium that is the source of your revenues: You are bound to their decisions, no matter how stupid they are. This is true for most companies, and has always been. It’s true for the big four record labels, it’s true for Sony’s gaming division, and it’s true for all things Microsoft.

#2 mae on 04.16.07 at 6:37 pm

@nav1 the problem with IE decisions is that they aren’t making any. The only way they manage to improve IE6 was that firefox was so great they got scared. The four music labels at least bring out new artist and from time to time they do something good. Same with Sony they innovate even if they are on top. Contrary to microsoft which invented the most hyped technology we have today on the web and store it in a safe.

#3 nav1 on 04.16.07 at 9:18 pm

I’m not saying their decisions are right, I agree with you completely on that. What I said was that it’s not up to the developers to just do a sort of strike and stop conforming to IE’s stupid quirks.

The big four I disagree, we would not have so much Reggaeton, Hip Hop and Pop crap if i wasn’t for them IMHO,but I guess taht is debatable; Sony….. let’s not go there.

#4 mae on 04.16.07 at 11:23 pm

then who do you suggest the users? someone has to do something about it.

About “the big four” for you is crap for others is music, here IE is not even compliant with the standards from w3c, that’s like a refinery sticking it to ISO.

#5 nav1 on 04.18.07 at 7:43 pm

To be honest, I have no idea what needs to be done. All I’m saying is that developers cannot simply refuse to support IE, it’s way too widely used, and would be counter-beneficial to them. IT is Microsoft that needs to step up and improve their code, and taking into account the recent major upgrade to IE did nothing to help on the subject, I’m inclined to believe that it’ll be many, many years before they do anything about it. Cause from their point of view, they have no real reason to do it.

#6 mae on 04.19.07 at 2:02 pm

well that’s not that bad IE7 did some things but now great.

IMO the fix is get everyone into firefox :D

#7 nav1 on 04.20.07 at 5:29 pm

Back to my original saying, easier said than done. Specially when choosing other browser as your default browser in Windows actually breaks more than it fixes. I know I would get a LOT of calls from my sister if she were to switch to Firefox or any other.

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